May 3, 2026
If you’re looking to better understand the evolving landscape of civic discourse on college campuses—and why it matters more than ever for higher education professionals—then you won’t want to miss the latest episode of “Student Affairs Voices from the Field.” Hosted by Dr. Jill Creighton and featuring guest Jill Dunlap, this episode dives deep into the challenges, opportunities, and innovative solutions for fostering constructive conversations and civic engagement in higher education.
A timely conversation, the episode opens with Dr. Jill Creighton welcoming Jill Dunlap back to the podcast and noting the sea change in student affairs policy and engagement work since her last appearance. Jill Dunlap, who has been with NASPA for nearly a decade and now oversees policy and civic engagement, brings first-hand insight into how students are reacting to new policies, especially those affecting graduate student borrowing. As she shares, many students aren’t fully aware of major policy shifts that could impact their future opportunities, underscoring the need for student affairs professionals to step up as guides and advocates.
Central to their conversation is NASPA’s upcoming “Civic Discourse on Campus Virtual Summit”—a brand new, fully online initiative designed to gather campus leaders, policy experts, and innovative practitioners to share tools, strategies, and research for nurturing robust civic dialogue in campus communities. Both Dr. Jill Creighton and Jill Dunlap stress the significance of equipping students to engage respectfully across political and personal differences, especially in a climate marked by polarization and the aftermath of the pandemic.
Listeners gain an insider’s perspective on what the summit will offer: keynote presentations, breakout sessions on measuring the impact of civic dialogue, facilitating deliberative forums, partnering with faculty, and more (–). Student affairs professionals at every level will find relevant content, whether they’re administrating at the VP level or working directly in residence halls. Importantly, all sessions will be recorded and available for later viewing, making the summit accessible for busy schedules.
This episode is packed with actionable ideas and authentic reflection on the responsibilities student affairs professionals share in shaping the next generation’s civic life. As campuses brace for high-stakes election cycles, and as societal challenges spill over into collegiate life, the tools and support discussed here are essential.
Whether you’re a campus leader or an aspiring practitioner, tune in to be inspired—and consider joining the conversation at NASPA’s Civic Discourse on Campus Virtual Summit this May. Listen now and get equipped for the important work ahead!
TRANSCRIPT
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:00:01]:
Welcome to Student Affairs Voices from the Field, the podcast where
we share your student affairs stories from fresh perspectives to
seasoned experts brought to you by naspa. We curate free and
accessible professional development for higher education
professionals wherever you happen to be. This is season 14,
continuing our conversation on the value of Student Affairs. I'm
Dr. Jill Creighton. Sheher hers your essay Voices from the Field
host. Welcome, Jill, back to SA Voices.
Jill Dunlap [00:00:29]:
Thanks for having me.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:00:30]:
We are live at the annual conference, so for our listeners, you
might hear a little bit of different audio quality because we're
trying a new setup, but we're also here in person. I almost never
get to see our guests in person, so I'm very happy to see you.
Jill Dunlap [00:00:41]:
This is so great.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:00:42]:
We had you on the POD almost four years ago now to talk about some
of the work that you were doing around Title ix. And now we're back
to talk about a brand new NASPA initiative called the Civic
Dialogue Summit. I'm really excited to learn more about that, but
it's been a minute since you've been on the pod, and since then
your role has changed. Can you tell us a little bit more about you
and how you got to your current seat at NASA?
Jill Dunlap [00:01:03]:
Yeah, absolutely. So I started at NASA. Oh my gosh, I think it's
going to be 10 years this November. So I've been here a minute, and
since the time that I last spoke to you all, I have added policy
duties and civic engagement to my portfolio. And that was just due
to different staff transitions and sort of me saying, hey, I'm
available and would love to do some additional duties while I'm at
NASA. I also teach political science as an adjunct. And so it's a
nice way for me to bring what I'm learning here to the classroom
and vice versa. And what my I'm hearing from my students about some
of these issues to the work that I do at naspa.
Jill Dunlap [00:01:33]:
So I it's a really beautiful blend of work that I am, I am
fortunate to be able to do.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:01:37]:
So when you're teaching, what are you hearing in the world of
students that you're bringing back to naspa?
Jill Dunlap [00:01:41]:
You know, they like just sort of what they're tuned into and what
breaks through in terms of policy. I'm doing a presentation this
afternoon at the annual conference talking about the new limits on
graduate student programs. Right. And so their understanding of
that, I think, is at the very infancy and so thinking about, oh,
wow, what how do we, as NASA and especially in the policy space,
guide student affairs professionals with Letting undergrad students
know this is going to drastically change what fields you can go
into, depending on what resources you have financially to be able
to pursue the degree of your choice. And so these are some really
significant changes, and I think some of those haven't broken
through yet to students at the undergraduate level. And I think
it's our job as student affairs professionals to help them
understand that.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:02:21]:
We just did a great episode with Melanie Story, who is the
president of NAFSA on some of these policy changes. And just then
on Saturday, I was co teaching one of our pre cons for the Public
Policy Division and we talked all about the OB3 federal financial
aid changes. OB3 stands for the One Big Beautiful act, also known
as HR1. But what Jill Dunlap is referring to is really all of this
information around new borrowing limits and lifetime borrowing
limits for graduate students. And there's a different cap for
professional students. It's very confusing. The long story short is
that most students will no longer be able to borrow for the full
cost of attendance in their programs, which is going to have an
incredible ripple effect on who can access that type of education
or on what those programs can cost where the list is really long,
not even really sure what the impacts are going to be in full yet.
We do know that they're going to take effect this year, next year
in 27, and the last rules will be introduced in 28.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:03:15]:
So it's just going to be a very different landscape.
Jill Dunlap [00:03:17]:
And it's all the more important for students to have civic agency.
Right. And to be able to understand this and understand the power
of talking to policymakers about these things on the front end and
also in the implementation phase of what's happening around us. So
very timely.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:03:31]:
So let's talk about the NASPA summit that you're leading along with
a couple of campus partners called the Civic Dialogue Summit. So
why don't we start with what the basics of what is it?
Jill Dunlap [00:03:40]:
Yeah, I think, you know, this work has been happening for a really
long time. So I definitely don't want it to seem as though NASA's
jumping in and like leading the charge on this. I think what we've
done with this event, and it's the first time we've done this,
especially in the virtual space, is really trying to bring together
all the partners that are doing really great work because I think
campus campuses sort of buzzy and at this point really kind of
bipartisan and we're clinging to things that we can do that are not
raising alarm bells for policymakers. And this is one of them. And
so I think both sides agree, both, you know, political parties
agree that students ability to have challenging conversations with
people who think very differently from them is an important skill.
And so let's like come together around that and take this moment
where we have an opportunity to move forward on some of those
things where we may not in other areas and give campuses and campus
professionals just the tools and resources and awareness of who's
working in this space so that they can develop really robust
programs on their own campuses. And so I think this is the
culminating event where we're doing that and we're bringing
together some really important thought leaders in this area.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:04:39]:
This sounds like a really great opportunity for campuses to
participate. Where is this going to be held?
Jill Dunlap [00:04:43]:
It is online, so anybody can attend. And I know that there are
folks with different travel restrictions. And so to me, there's a
real equality of opportunity to attend this. It is on Friday, May
8, and I believe that it starts at 11 Central so that we are not
too early for our west coast partners. And it runs all the way
through into the afternoon. And so we'll have one keynote kickoff
presentation and then there'll be a series of breakout sessions. So
folks will have different options to choose from throughout the
afternoon.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:05:11]:
Can you talk a little bit about how much this might cost for
members?
Jill Dunlap [00:05:14]:
Yeah, I think it's a really reasonable cost for folks to be able to
come. Early registration runs through the end of March, and for
members it is 1, 99, and it is 2. 99 for non members. And also
because we really appreciate and value the work of students in this
area, there is a student rate of 70, $79 for early
registration.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:05:29]:
What might I expect from the participant experience?
Jill Dunlap [00:05:31]:
I think you can expect, like I said, a lot of thought leaders in
this space who are doing really important work and really from a
broad range of perspectives. So thinking about folks who want to
host deliberative forums and what does that look like and how do
you measure the effectiveness of those two? How are we capturing
data about the impact of students who are developing these skill
sets? How do you scale some of this work so that you can run it
across first year experience programs or in residence halls?
There's a session focused on how do we partner with faculty to
infuse civic discourse into a wide range of curriculum. It doesn't
just have to be the 101 classes that we can really talk about, some
of the debates in our chemistry classes and the different schools
of thought and how do we just really infuse this skill set
throughout a student's entire journey at an institution.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:06:12]:
I'm just taking a look at the schedule and what I'm seeing are a
lot of really great external higher ed partners. And I think
normally with a lot of NASPA events we see people coming from
different campuses, but this is really exciting to see common
ground here from some other external folks who are bringing their
skill set into our world. So can you talk a little bit about any of
the partners that are presenting?
Jill Dunlap [00:06:31]:
Yeah, we've partnered with all of these folks before in different
capacities. So we have in years past had a place based civic
learning and democratic engagement conference. Some of these folks
have presented there. I think the reason that these folks were
selected is that they are just approaching this from a really
robust and diverse array of perspectives. And so again, you know,
there's some folks who are working with faculty, there are some
folks who are working with measurement and data and scaling up. And
so to me, each of the folks that are represented and coming to
present, each of the organizations that will be there are just a
demonstration of really important work that's happening at the
national level. We do have someone coming from a campus as well to
talk about how do you do an entire class on civic discourse. And I
think some folks are like, I could do that at my campus.
Jill Dunlap [00:07:11]:
You know, I'm a smaller campus, like what do I need to know to make
that happen at my institution? And so I think we have a really good
mix of both the campus level perspectives as well as the folks that
are working at scale across a wide range of institutions across the
country. So I think it'll be a really nice marriage of those
different perspectives in a one day event.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:07:27]:
And this event is both breakout sessions and keynote sessions
throughout. So attendees will have some sessions where everyone's
together, some sessions where people, people get to choose between
two or three topics. So if I'm an attendee and I really want to go
to one and it's happening at the same time as another, can I access
them?
Jill Dunlap [00:07:44]:
You sure can. That's actually also the beauty of a virtual summit
is that all of the sessions will be recorded. And so anyone who
registers, even if you can't attend on the day of, which I know I
shouldn't say that, because the goal is that you would attend the
day of, because I do think some of the breakout sessions will have
engagement opportunities in breakout rooms. And so if you're
wanting to come and hear what other campuses are doing or connect
with other people that are doing this work and you're thinking, I
didn't know that there were other people that did these same things
at other institutions, or I know that that campus is similarly
situated to mine. It would be a really great networking opportunity
for those who attend live. But if you wanted to see all of the
sessions and you can't, you know, physically be at all of them,
they all will be recorded and they'll be on demand and available
for a year after the actual live event for folks who register.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:08:23]:
If I am new to naspa, how is this different than maybe some of our
other virtual offerings?
Jill Dunlap [00:08:28]:
Yeah, I think sometimes we get very specific in the virtual
offerings. And to me, this is something that is really the. The
purview or the responsibility of everyone. If you are working with
student government, you want them to have civically engaged
conversations. If you are advising student organizations and they
are bringing controversial speakers and you have a different
student organization that wants to protest that. And again, not
that we're discouraging that, but really everybody has a
responsibility, I think, from student affairs perspective, to help
students figure out how to engage with one another. It is not just
faculty, it is not just in the classroom. We see the body of
activities that students engage in outside of the classroom.
Jill Dunlap [00:09:01]:
And to me, civic engagement and civic learning and especially civic
discourse is the job of everyone in a student affairs role. So for
me, this event, I think, brings together enough information that
will be useful to, for decision makers at like AVP VP level, but
also folks who are working in the civic engagement office or are in
a res hall and they're like, how do I get roommates to talk to each
other? I mean, there's really some very individualized skill
building that is being discussed in some of these sessions. And so
I just think it's so applicable for everyone. So if you're new to
NASA and you're like, I don't do civic engagement, that's not in my
title. It doesn't mean that you won't benefit from some of these
sessions in terms of your engagement with students. And we know
that they're struggling. These students in our, in our classrooms
and on our campuses are coming out of COVID and already struggling
with how to engage with one another, much less in a really, really
polariz environment. And so when everything becomes politics, this
is going to give folks a lot of food for thought and also some
really tangible takeaways about how to help students just develop
this skill in a way that is really, I think, beneficial for
themselves and the campus community as a whole.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:09:57]:
Definitely. Really timely. Yeah, you mentioned about the
polarization of perspectives that we're seeing on campuses now. And
one of the missions of higher education has always has been to help
people understand each other from different life perspectives and
critically think about things. And I think those of us who are
working in student affairs now didn't probably have that same
collegiate experience where it was probably not as tense, it was
just as serious, but probably not as tense as today. And so this is
an incredible toolkit that we could probably all use right now,
regardless of where we are in the world.
Jill Dunlap [00:10:27]:
Yeah, well, and I would also just say I think the timing of it is
really especially important because I think as we're heading into a
midterm election that is already, like in the primaries, getting
very heated. If we can help students engage across difference in
the middle of a very important election year, I think a lot of
civic engagement offices just think that the only thing that they
need to focus on is voter registration and turnout out. And to me,
we're missing the sort of building blocks that get students to the
idea that voting is important or a part of their civic ethos. And
so for me, this is the opportunity to build those building blocks
for students. But in a year where we know that they're going to be
faced with a lot of political content and the ability to think
differently or accept other points of view and incorporate those
into how you are approaching the election, I think is going to be
really important.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:11:12]:
It's become increasingly important to learn to listen, to seek to
understand. And that's a skill set that's been a little bit
different lately. And I appreciate what you're saying about COVID
and how that's affected students engagement with each other. And
we're now six years past the start of COVID which time changed. For
me personally, I think time changed for a lot of people in the last
six years. But these are students now who didn't do Covid High
School. They did Covid Middle school or maybe even late elementary
school. And those were extremely formative years in terms of
learning to communicate at probably one of the most difficult times
to be a human being in life, combined with.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:11:46]:
With digital addiction and a whole bunch of other things. And we've
forgotten how to talk to each other. So I'm very appreciative that
this is coming out. And I want to correct myself. I earlier said
civic dialogue Summit, it's called Civic Discourse on Campus
Virtual Summit. So if you're googling for something on the NASA
website, civic discourse are the keywords that you're going to want
to use to find this program. And I mentioned earlier that there's
quite a few sessions that are both either simulcast or a pathway
selection. So I just want to share what those are to get people
excited.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:12:16]:
We've got Civic A Crucible Moment for Democracy. The next one is is
your campus built for Constructive Assessing Pathways to Stronger
Civic Health? The one that I'm most interested in is can
deliberative forums lower the temperature? And that is such a key
framework right now for our campuses. The next one is Leading
through campus Conflict, a frame for responding to student demands
and concerns which anyone who has a highly significantly active
student population could certainly benefit. We have from evidence
to impact how research informs scalable civic dialogue on campus.
Scalable being an extremely key word, different from when you're
working with a small student population versus when you're maybe
working with a large group of students who have a set of things
that they're asking for. We have beyond good Conversations,
measuring and acting on civic discourse's impact. It's a summit
session and I'll give a shout out to the speaker, who is Catherine
Solano, who's one of my favorite collaborative partners in the
Public Policy Division, Space Place. She's an excellent
practitioner.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:13:14]:
We have Building Sustainable Campus Collaborations, then Building
Essential Skills for Civic Life and Leadership, and finally State
and federal Policy Trends on civic Discourse. So if any of these
things sound interesting, you, we strongly encourage you to check
it out again. Civic Discourse on Campus virtual summit happening at
the beginning of May. I know for me that's also move out weekend
for students. Jill, is there anything else that you want people to
know about the summit or kind of the context around it?
Jill Dunlap [00:13:41]:
You know, I just think even again, back to the policy space, that
some of the changes in focus of the current presidential
administration have been towards civic discourse. And so we saw for
the first time some grants from the Department of Education. I
think some of those funds were pulled from places that other people
will miss those funds. So I don't want to say that it's necessarily
all good, but to the extent that they are showing a focus on civic
discourse, one of the grantees from the Department of Education is
one of the presenters. So again, the idea that the government is
investing in this and so to the extent that this work has been
happening on campus, this is not new, but that we can elevate and
highlight and really learn from one another and learn about what
tools and partners are in this space so that folks just can move
forward from here and I think come away with some really good ideas
and taking a fresh look at what they're doing at their own
institution. So that again, heading into the fall, especially with
the midterm elections, that it's so much more than about voting. It
really is about helping the institution and meet its mission,
oftentimes which includes civic engagement quite frequently. And I
think this is one of those tools that we are able to provide the
profession to do that well.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:14:39]:
I'm also seeing a checkbox for continuing education credit credits.
Is that a possibility?
Jill Dunlap [00:14:45]:
Yes, I believe that we are announcing which ones will be which the
summit will fill, but at this point for sure it will be the CSAED
credits for anybody who attends this. If you are a part of the
certification program.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:14:55]:
Well, I am looking forward to this program becoming a reality. I
know I'm looking forward to learning from it as well. For those of
you who'd like to sign up, search again for Civic Discourse on
Campus Virtual Summit, which will happen on May 8th. It's time to
take a quick break and toss it over to producer Chris to learn
what's going on in the NASPA world world.
Speaker C [00:15:14]:
Hey Joe, glad to be back in the NASPA world and there's a ton of
things happening in NASPA as we've been learning about today. The
2026 civic discourse on Campus Virtual Summit is coming up really
soon as colleges and universities work to support student learning
and engagement amid an evolving landscape around free speech,
academic freedom and political expression, the need for thoughtful,
principled approaches to civic discourse has never been greater.
The 2026 civic discourse on Campus Virtual Summit brings together
higher education leaders, student affairs professionals and
dialogue practitioners to explore the evolving landscape and share
evidence informed strategies for cultivating healthy campus
climates. This Virtual Summit is happening Tuesday, May 8, 2026
from 11:00am to 5:00pm Eastern Standard Time and you can register
today on the NASPA website. Just go to learning.naspa.org to
register today. The NASPA Sexual Violence Prevention and Response
Virtual Summit is coming up on Tuesday, May 19 from 11am to 4pm
Eastern Standard Time. The 2026 NASPA Sexual Violence Prevention
and Response Summit will provide campus and organizational leaders
with the knowledge, tools and strategies needed to drive meaningful
campus wide change in sexual violence prevention and response.
Featuring expert led session and evidence based practices, the
Summit will equip participants to advance holistic approaches that
center prevention, elevate survivor support, strengthen equitable
services for respondents, and embed equity, safety and well being
into the fabric of campus life.
Speaker C [00:16:58]:
If this sounds like a learning opportunity that you want to take
advantage for yourself or for your staff. Go to learning.naspa.org
to find out more. The 2027 Annual Conference Focus Area Virtual
Information Session on Adapting with Purpose and Agency in the New
Era of Student affairs is happening on May 8th at 1pm Eastern
Standard Time. This session introduces the focus area Adapting with
Purpose and Agency in the New Era of Student Affairs. In this
session we will cover the themes of governance and compliance,
strategic partnerships, emergent student populations, and aligning
student affairs work with institutional goals. This is a great
opportunity to ask questions and gain clarity on how to frame your
proposals for the NASPA 2027 conference within this focus area. So
if you're planning to attend the 2027 conference and want to
present, this is a great opportunity to be able to learn about one
of the main focus areas of the conference so you can be ready to
submit when the when the submission period opens. You can sign up
for this session@learning.naspa.org Every week we're going to be
sharing some amazing things that are happening association.
Speaker C [00:18:11]:
So we are going to be able to try and keep you up to date on
everything that's happening and allow for you to be able to get
involved in different ways. Because the association is as strong as
its members and for all of us, we have to find our place within the
association, whether it be getting involved with the knowledge
community, giving back within one of the the centers or the
divisions of the Association. And as you're doing that, it's
important to be able to ident for yourself. Where do you fit? Where
do you want to give back? Each week we're hoping that we will share
some things that might encourage you, might allow for you to be
able to get some ideas that will provide you with an opportunity to
be able to say, hey, I see myself in that knowledge community, I
see myself doing something like that, or encourage you in other
ways that allow for you to be able to think beyond what's available
right now to offer other things to the association, to bring your
gifts, your talents to the association and to all of the members
within the association. Because through doing that, all of us are
stronger and the association is better. Tune in again next week as
we find out more about what is happening in naspa.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:19:32]:
Chris, thank you so much for continuing to keep us updated on
what's going on in and around NASPA. And Jill, we have reached our
lightning round, which we know you've done once before, so we
change it up on you and we have a little bit of a different set of
questions. Seven questions, 90 seconds. All right, are you ready?
All right, number one, last time you told us your entrance music.
If you were a conference keynote speaker, would you like to change
your song?
Jill Dunlap [00:19:54]:
Yeah, I think so. I, you know, got really invested in heated
rivalry, so it's probably something from that soundtrack. I don't
even know that I have a specific one, but it would definitely come
from that show.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:20:02]:
Number two, what was your undergrad degree and do you use it in
your work night now?
Jill Dunlap [00:20:06]:
It was journalism in Spanish. Sadly, I have not kept up with the
Spanish, but the journalism taught me how to write, and I use
writing every single day.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:20:12]:
Number three, your guilty pleasure TV show binge lately?
Jill Dunlap [00:20:15]:
Oh, let's just go back again. It's like a reheat of heated
rivalry.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:20:18]:
Number four, if someone visits your city, which is Chicago, what is
the one place that they must eat?
Jill Dunlap [00:20:24]:
Oh, I think it's Cindy's Rooftop. The chef there was on one of the
most recent seasons of Top Chef, and the views from the top of that
restaurant are amazing.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:20:32]:
So not deep dish, then.
Jill Dunlap [00:20:33]:
They can. If that is your jam. People have very strong feelings
about that.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:20:38]:
Number five, your favorite work related podcast.
Jill Dunlap [00:20:41]:
Oh, gosh, I listen to too many. I listen to all the podcast of
America pods because I, as part of my job, have to keep up on
policy. And it's not biased, but I do like their series of podcasts
that they put out.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:20:52]:
Number six, your favorite not work related podcast.
Jill Dunlap [00:20:55]:
Oh, my gosh. Now see, that's a hard one. I do like Hysteria. It is
still a crooked media podcast, but the women on that used to work
for the Obama administration. They just have some really good deep
cuts on what's happening in the world around us.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:21:07]:
And finally, number seven, any shout outs you'd like to give,
personal or professional?
Jill Dunlap [00:21:11]:
You know what? I would like to give a shout out to the team that
works with me in the policy area, and that is Janae Chandler, our
vice president, and Diana Ali, who I think was on a recent episode
as well. But those two I work with regularly and without their
brains, we couldn't do what we do. So I'm really appreciative to be
surrounded by such thoughtful leaders.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:21:27]:
Definitely a double shout out to them and to yourself. I think the
policy squad and NASPA are some of my favorite colleagues that I
get to work with. I love everyone who works there, but the three of
you have always been such incredible colleagues and for many years
now.
Jill Dunlap [00:21:39]:
Yeah. Oh, we feel the same about you. Thank you.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:21:41]:
Oh, thank you. Over the years, Jill Dunlap and I have been in a lot
of meetings together and somebody always says Jill. And both of us
go, what? Jill, if someone would like to reach you after the show,
how can they find you?
Jill Dunlap [00:21:52]:
Just via my NASPA email. I'm at J Dunlap, which is D U N L a
p@naspa.org Jill, thank
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:21:57]:
you so much for bringing your voice to us and sharing with us for
the second time. We really appreciate it.
Jill Dunlap [00:22:02]:
Absolutely. Thanks for having me.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:22:03]:
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produced and hosted by Dr. Jill Creighton. That's me. Produced and
audio engineered by Dr. Chris Lewis. Special thanks to the
University of Michigan, Flint for your support as we create this
project.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:22:56]:
Catch you next time.